Posted by: ihlos | April 3, 2009

Pet Feat: Kel’Thuzad (OT)

This is a great shot of the turtle in action! Keep up the good work! This is where I see us finding a niche in the next patch with dual spec, when the raid is down a player or tank, or they just need something tanked but don’t want to use an extra person to do it, but only for one fight here or there.

kurasu-kel-thuzad-off-tank

The Sapphiron tanking raised the bar awfully high. πŸ™‚ But there was one challenge left…. it’s not Heroic, but it’s still a big thing for me.

Who: Kurasu of Emerald Dreams (EU) (80 BM)
Pet: Panzer (80 turtle)
Group: Full raid group (including warrior MT)

Details: It was a simple run into Naxx, 10-man, for a bunch of the newbs in the guild. We decided we were going to go for the Sapphiron achievement, since none of us had them. Including my hunter. However, we only had one tank if I dropped my alt, a beartank. After a brief deliberation, it was decided that we’d at least give it a try.

Again, enter the Panzer. And the Beast Master specced Kura.

I didn’t get to tank Sapph. With only one hunter for MDs, it didn’t seem like a wise plan. So I was plain ol’ DPS there. Most of the Kel’thuzad battle was the same as usual, except I moved to the back when he was at 50% and waited for the summons.

When the first guardian was summoned, I sent the turtle after it, with Growl on. For the second one, a rogue and myself used our MD to direct it at Panzer, and throughout the Kel’thuzad battle, I simply occasionally MDed a multishot to the turtle and kept pegging away on Kel’thuzad. Mend Pet was kept up to help the healers, just in case, but other than a couple of crits, he did just fine; took very little damage (comparitively). The only problem was when I got ice blocked myself, and the healers were focusing on tanks… forgetting that when I drop, so does the tank. Still, at that point, he was down to about 15%, and with the warrior tank being triple-healed, he was able to tank all three and Kelly was down for the count.

…. dropping the uber bear-tanking weapon, of course. Bah!

Still, it was worth every minute. Two achievements in one day: an official one, and an unofficial one, here on BRR. πŸ˜‰

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  1. Whoops! A correction in the posting I just noticed: it was the *Kel’thuzad* achievement we were going for. Not the Sapphiron one (although we ended up going for it as well, as an afterthought).

    That’s my typo. Not Ihlos’. πŸ˜€

  2. I actually did this as well, had a fraps of it, but my Windows 7 installations expiring decided to fry my HDD. I used a gorilla though, less multitasking that way having aggro on both mobs.

  3. Nice one.

  4. For you, who’s the best Tank Pet in 3.1????

  5. The turtle for single target main tanking hands down.

    The crocolisk for multi target threat tanking. For example trash in Naxx.

    And finally I think only experience can tell if the gorillas pummel makes it worth bringing as a tank for a rare few bosses, or if it’s simply a decent utility in pvp and for achievements such as the Zul’Drak transformation boss.

  6. I would agree that just like the gorilla, the turtle is going to take its turn in the sun.

    Shell Sheild is great for Main tanking, and will also make for a great Off tank. Unless we see a major buff to survivability, this move is undeniably useful.

  7. Turtles are going to really come into their own, but these feats are something to really be proud of. Go Panzer!

  8. I’m going to be using Panzer throughout 3.1, I think, with the possibility of my croc in the wings for the multitarget threat. Still, a turtle with thunderstomp will no doubt be *the* big MT pet. At least, Panzer will certainly be mine.

    Of course, there might be just a *little* bias there, considering he’s already my MT without thunderstomp. πŸ˜€

  9. Hey don’t get too down about that staff, its not only an uber bear-tanking weapon but also an uber pet-tanking weapon. Depending on if you’re more interested in 714 Armor or 18 AP, it is either the best or second best pet tanking item in the game right now even with the expertise being a wasted stat. I hope you grabbed it up.

    Also for Post-3.1 pets, I’d agree that for the most part the turtle will probably be the go to pet for most encounters. Bears and crocs will be multi-target specialists, Gorillas will still be great for casting bosses like Kel, and worms will have a very slight advantage for single target threat as they have the most damaging special.

  10. It would be nice to have acid spit generate extra threat. That would probably top them out in the threat game for the threat race fights, which would be a nice tool to have available if needed.

  11. I actually wonder about the expertise being a wasted stat. I haven’t been able to do official tests on it yet, but I know a BM friend of mine’s pet was having a considerably larger number of non-parried hits, and he was wearing an Expertise ring (picked up Hemorrhaging Circle and hasn’t gotten a replacement for it yet) at the time. His pet wasn’t specced with extra expertise, nor do I think he had any extra expertise talents on him (although I could be proven wrong about that).

    As for whether I took it, I did, actually. I have a better weapon for stamina (by 1 point so it’s not a huge waste), but this one has the expertise, like you said, and there’s the possibility of that ‘adding in’.

    Anyone who can test, and might want to see? Recount doesn’t seem to like recording pet parries and blocks, so I can’t just throw the pet at a dummy and check the data.

  12. It may be that he had animal handler, which is 10 expertise, which would make a noticeable difference.

    I seem to remember there being an official post about pets not getting expertise, but i may be remembering incorrectly. Ive never tested it myself, it would be fairly easy to test out though. Maybe I’ll combine my next pet leveling spat with some expertise testing.

  13. It is possible. I remember checking for Expertise talents and not seeing them, but as he respecced, I’d be going off my memory rather than double-checking, and that isn’t going to be as good as a direct test.

    In my case, there were definitely still dodges. The comparison between us two was purely that: comparison. His pet had a little more than 1% fewer ‘dodge’ than mine, and while that might not seem a big number, when we’re looking at my ~5% versus his 3-4% dodged, that’s a 20% increase in hits. Plenty big for my liking, thanks. πŸ˜‰

    I tried looking up some info, but so far I’ve only been able to find one mention of a test, and there wasn’t a comparison done. Just a nice ’round numbers’ statement on those dodges (http://elitistjerks.com/f74/t37714-hit_rating/p2/) If nothing else, someone with a WSS might be able to compare their pet’s ‘dodges’ versus the ones reported there?

  14. It would be extremely good if pets got less parries with our expertise. Less parries means less incoming white damage.

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Parry
    “When you parry an attack, the remaining time on your current swing is reduced by 40% of your weapon speed, unless this would result in a reduction to less than 20% of your swing time remaining”
    “This results in an average of .24 extra swings per parry”

  15. Not to mention the fact that when parried, bosses get to reset their swing timer, thus speeding the attack up. And in a raid, I was complained-at for my pet ‘parry hasting’ the boss once. Whether it’s accurate or not, I’m going to assume that it is; it makes it more reasonable for me to complain we need more pet expertise. πŸ˜‰

  16. It would be very rare for your pet to make the boss parry since you can’t parry attacks from behind, and your pet automatically attacks from behind.

  17. Unless your pet was tanking the boss πŸ™‚

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